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Posted on 22 September 2009.
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Mr. Nalbandian…..do you remember these words that came out of your mouth on Friday 9/18/09…..But yet you are part of this too….WAKE UP
(“If the current Turkish authorities are unable to recognize the fact of the Genocide during the Ottoman Empire, then the least they can do is to show respect toward the survivors of the Genocide and their children,” said Nalbandian in a surprise departure from his usual modus operandi.)
Now i want you to read this other paragraph one sentence…on the same day you were there, this was being told to you..how can you let your own (TSHNAMEE) advise you like this, who are the Armenia Diaspora where did we come from, can you explain this to us all?
(In his remarks, Erdogan also said that Armenia should be freed from the influence of the Diaspora)
AMOT TZEZI……HAZAR AMOT VOR KIDNALOV MEK DEGH GUNTOONIK SHOON TURKUH TZEZI KHRADEH
PARONAYQ QADJ NAZARNER,
DZEZ VOTC TE XELAZI XORHURD E PETQ, AYL @NDHAMEN@ MI USTIAN IR TSAXAVELOV !!! -TSAVOQ, SA E IRAKANUZIUN@, BAYTS EL JAMANK TCKA-
HISUS QRISTOSN ASUM E:
-YETE DZERQT GAYTAKGUM E QEZ, APA KTRI !
LAV E, VOR MI DZERQOV MTNES ASTSO ARQAYUTIUN,
QAN YERKU DZERQOV AYRVES HAVERJAKAN KRAKI METC’ DJOGQUM !
NUYN@ ASVUM E VOTQI U ATCQI HAMAR !
PARON SARKSYAN SERJ, YETE TCLSEQ HAY AZGI MAYRAKAN XORHURD@,
SERUNDNEROV KTANJVEQ DJOGQI KRAKNERUM !!!
AYD JAMANAK, YETE HRAJARVEQ EL ATCQERITS U VERTCUYTNERIZ,
MIEVNUN E, 7 PORTOV KAYRVEQ AZGI ANETSQIZ’ DJOGQI KRAKUM !!!
VSTAH EM, VOR HASKAZAQ PATJI LRJUTIUN@.
HAYERN EN ASTSO JOGOVURD@, QRISTOSI PES TANJVUM EN, BAYTS NRANZ VOSKOR@ JARDEL TCI KARELI ! SATANA MASSONNERIZ MI VAXETSEQ !
DERYEVS HARGANQNEROV’ VIGHEN AVETIS
NOT PROTOCOLS!! THE GENOCIDE NOT NEGOTIABLE!!
ARMENIA IS NOT FOR SALE!!
VOTCH BARON NAKHAKAH!! VOTCH!!
You Should be ashamed of yourself to sell the Home of the Armenians
Who were masacred by these barbarians Amott gezi you must have forgotten the millions who lost ther lives.
Armenia’s government and some of it’s uncaring and ‘dead’ minded citizens are right now definatly making some negotia a with the ‘modern’ Turkish republic which will be very hard to retract if are made and be made finalized. There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Compromising. The. Genocides which did. Happen to. The same armenia. Only. 95-87. Years. Ago. and. Now this same Country’s government is working towards a reconciliation with turkey which does. Not exist. And. ‘excuse me’ for being blunt should be coming from the other sides. Turk** and azerbaij** and. With all this Armenia has obligation__ to become friends with turkey in this way hello is anyone thinking about the future of armenia’s__ INTEGRITY and how importante her rightfull_ and justifiable__ claim are towards those two countries which by the way are ILLegaLY continueing to hold formER Armenian lands so, puttin this fact up it is ArmeNIA__ who should have preconditions to turkey before any ANY borders are opened__ and__ any proper relations with each other can_ ever begin. So_ OUR final word should be__ no to opening borders on __ either_ side and NO to any true_ _ relations between either nations__ more importantly turkey due to the imensity of it’s past crimes _ not to forget _ not only towards ArmeniA anD_ also towards Bulgaria and Greece and AssyriA_ns!
After what the turkey has done they want to forget all that
STOP THE PROTOCALLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss
sireli hay joghovourt.aysor hayoun yadi yertalen vad g tarna yev tebed mer polor jikeroun baron nakhakahi inkniren g voroshe ays paneri yev ad aghdod shoun tourkin hed sahman bid pana g khntrem voch esenk ays amen paneroun yev hanoun hay joghovourtin yev hanoun hay heghapoghagagan tashnagtsoutian mer polor chankeri tapenk
getse azadadench hay joghovourti
getse miyasnagan sourp yerortoutiouni
yev getse hay heghapoghagan tashnagtsoutoune
stopppppppppppp da protocolsss
turkey shuld payyyy for it
We are ARMENIANS,in one hand,we will fight until we take back our country.
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Dear Mr. Sarkisyan,
Many Armenians have sent messages to you to stop signing the protocols with Turkey.
It seems that I am the first Turkish citizen to do so.
I am a retired Ambassador closely involved with our relations with your country. Actually, in 1992 I have negotiated the first prtotocol for entering into diplomatic relations. That attempt failed because of your aggression towards and occupation of Kelbechar region of Azerbaijan. That was the last straw of your seriak aggressions.
The draft protocols fail to take into consideration Turkey’s “red lines”. If they were enter into force you will not be deprieved of your signing the old song of the so-called genocide. Hencee, you will continue to be captive of your destorted mind set, in other words you will not be able to liberate yourselves from captivitiy. This means that you will continue to be a semi-independent country. As such Armenian will continue to depend on a third force which has been the case for centruires now. Don’t you thing that it is high time for Armenia now to be fully indepedent? Furthermore, if these protocols were to enter into force you will continue to day dream of a grater Armenia, the so-called “Wesetrn Armenia”. This claim ignors the fact you are able to provide your own citizens’ lifelihood. Over a million of your citizens left their “independent” country to seek bread money elsewhere, including Turkey. Over 70.000 of you citizens are working illegally in Turkey and sending their savings to their families in Armenia. (Our human feelings to let allow us to send these illegal worjers back, because we know that you cannot feed them, you cannot provide work for them.) This is the irony of Turkish-Armenian relations. You consider us your enemy, you educate your children accordingly and in return we feed your people. This is a humiliating situation for Armenian. I should add that contrary to the basic principles of international law you continue to occupy Azerbaijani territory which you managed with the help, support and all means of the third country on which you are depending.
I could write more. But that should suffice for a man occupying the seat of the president of a semi-independent country.
You will do a favour to my country and to yours too if you did not sign the protocols. We do not want to establish diplomatic relations with an aggressor country which does not show any sign of liberating itself from its self imposed captivitiy.
These texts are a disgrace for people like me who always wanted to establish honest, correct relations with Armenia. I am confident that there are Armenians sharing my views.
Unrespectfully,
Candan Azer
Retired Ambassador
hello, please if you do not care about yourself and your rights, we do want our rights, us the armenian DIASPORA today. why am i living in The Hashmetic Kingdom Of Jordan; it is because of the genocide and yes my mother’s grandmother was one of the survivors of the genocide, please stop the protocols till turkia admits the genocide please, why did our grandparents then suffer at that time so that their blood now is all gone, no way to accept it. thank you
stop the protocolssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
AMOT HAZAR AMOT YEREVIE MECHED SHOON TURKEI
AROOYN GE HOSI AYT BADJAROV SHOONEROON HED
GE HAMATSAYNIS TAVAJAN VASAK
To Candan Azer:
You say Armenia is the “aggressor country” – but isn’t Turkey the one who made it illegal to mention “genocide” within its borders? Didn’t the republic’s predecessors plan and execute the mass deportations and slaughter of 1.5 million people (mostly Armenians, but other minorities too)? Did not Stalin give Artaskh to Azerbaijan, and Artsakh is predominantly Armenian? Now I’ll be one of the first to admit that some Armenians have done some foolish things, too (planning to blow up embassies). But the biggest “aggression” of all is to continue denying the crimes of the past and trying to sweep it under the rug. The Turkish government still continues to stifle and attack the integrity of the Armenians as humans and those other victims of the genocide. If Turkey had come to grips, or if it will ever come to grips, with its bloody past, it would save a lot of anguish and heartache for people on both sides of the Armenian/Turkish border. All I have to say is that I don’t think it was an accident that my grandparents and many others’ ancestors ended up dispersed in other countries, while Turkey lost most of its Armenian inhabitants, following 1915.
TO CANDAN AZER
IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A RETIRED AMBASADOR TO TURKEY
I AM NOT SURPRISED TO UNDERSTAND YOUR IGNORONCE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF ARMENIA.
IF YOU DONT KNOW THAT AZERBAÍJAN WAS CREATED ON ARMENIAN LAND GO
AND READ THE HISTORY OF THAT AREAS.
ARMENIAN IS NOT OCUPINIG ANY COUNTRY,THEY OCCUPY WHAT IS BELONGING TO THEM. REMEMBER TURKEY IS OCUPYING HALF OF CYRUS AND MOST OF THE
ARMENIAN LANDS.
PLEASE WAKE UP AND FORGET THAT ONE SIDED TURKEYS TEACHING OF HISTORY.
To the Candan Azer, so called “ambassador”.
You are so ignorant of your own past. And you don’t have enough courage to face it. You are fools, the worst kind of animals that walk these planet. Armenia and Armenians existed long before your ‘tribe’ (not nation because you will never become one). We so a lot during our long journey through centuries, we saw how the greatest empires and civilizations came and go, but we lived. You are fools if you think that you will be able to break us. you ancetors were fools. You can’t understand that you will die as a nation sooner or later, that your country will cease to exist like many others did before you. BUT Remember- Armenia and Armenians WILL be there, and will see your fall.
P.S. AND DON’T DARE to offend our president! We can say whatever we want, but you, DOG, don’t have any right to do so.
To the “Ambassador”
DON’T DARE to OFFEND our President! WE can say anything, but YOU, DOG, have no right to do so
Mr Aaaambasador…….
If I were you I woudn’t have embarrased myself in front of the whole world like this
Shut up, stay retired and don’t poke your filty nose in our case.
The Truth Of The GENOCIDE Never dies because it is not a fairy tail…
Wake up & read about the History the truth.. then be a man and accept the truth. Don’t hide behind great powers of other countries who support you by lieing.
And don’t think that those great powers support you because they like you bot they need your stratigical position of land.
You are beeng used, Wake up …..
Stope the Protocolessssssssss
If you sighn you WILL PAY FOR IT……………….
protocolnere oosoomnasires par ar par polor hay zhoghovoorte,
tser sedakhosootyoone[sarkisian yev nalbandian] sahman choonie
minchev yerp TAVAJANER vorkanov KASHARKVETSAK
turkeren AVANAKNER yete badiv oonik HRAZHARVETSEK
TAVAJAN SHOONER
Mr. Nalbandian…..do you remember these words that came out of your mouth on Friday 9/18/09…..But yet you are part of this too….WAKE UP
(“If the current Turkish authorities are unable to recognize the fact of the Genocide during the Ottoman Empire, then the least they can do is to show respect toward the survivors of the Genocide and their children,” said Nalbandian in a surprise departure from his usual modus operandi.)
Now i want you to read this other paragraph one sentence…on the same day you were there, this was being told to you..how can you let your own (TSHNAMEE) advise you like this, who are the Armenia Diaspora where did we come from, can you explain this to us all?
(In his remarks, Erdogan also said that Armenia should be freed from the influence of the Diaspora)
AMOT TZEZI……HAZAR AMOT VOR KIDNALOV MEK DEGH GUNTOONIK SHOON TURKUH TZEZI KHRADEH
vochinch chunem aseloo batsi davajan amot zezi vor aydpisi khapetsik ansyal tari bolor hayasdansnieris
Mi ellar ait marte ir azke ghe zakhe.
I was born in Egypt 3rd generation.
Was born there because my grandparents from both sides were able to escape the slaughter from the Turkish authorities.
They did lose all their loved ones, possessions and homes.
So let me get this right. It did not happen, my grandparents who were eye witnesses to these atrocities were lying to me. Right?
The irony is no Armenians past or present ever accused the Turkish people of these atrocities, no, but the governing bodies of that time. This is all you have to state Turkey.
I personally do not wish for any compensations, for what is the price of blood that you can afford? Just state the truth. Is this so painful for you Turkey?
May GOD damn you to the middle of hell you bastards of Sargsyan administration, I accuse you of being Mongolian blood thirsty murderers.
You just put to death again the brave warriors of past and present. And all the innocents who shed their blood, in vain.
Know that you will implement your arrogant will and do as your masters have commanded. What amount did they offer your private coffers I wonder? You Godless creature of satan.
All I have to say in summary is that I know you will get away with it.
And may you and the likes of you rot in hell and not die. Lest the suffering cease.
Fuck you all and you too Candan Azer, for if you believed in truth, you would have spoken it. Irregardless of what background you come from.
setrak
NOT PROTOCOLS!! THE GENOCIDE NOT NEGOTIABLE!!
ARMENIA IS NOT FOR SALE!!
VOTCH BARON NAKHAKAH!! VOTCH!!
I have seen President Sarkisian during my last visit to Armenia, he was the Prime Minister of Armenia at the time. I attended a ceremony honoring the teachers, his words impressed me and left a great impression on me, at the time. Since then and since he became president, I do not know what happened to this man. Why is he on a whirlwind world tour, where he is trying to avoid meeting and listening to the diaspora Armenians in France the US (New York and Los Angeles). It seems that he knows that he is taking wrong steps and thus being a traitor to the Armenian Nation (not the Republic of Armenia alone). I hope the President is not blind or deaf, I hope he does not suffer from some kind of mental illness. I hope he is not under some magical spell done by the Turks.
I wonder if the Armenian side used the expertise, advice and help of international law experts before agreeing to the Protocols. This is something accepted internationally. It happened, for example when Jordan and King Hussein negociated with the Israelis, they hired a British and a German international law expert and professor.
Coming to the issue with the borders, Willy Brandt’s Germany (FRG) when negotiating the treaties with East Germany (GDR) and the Soviet Union, left the door open for future changes in the current borders between the co-signing countries. The door was left open to future and peaceful changes of the existing borders/boundries. All that was useful, when the time came for the Berlin Wall to fall and the German Unification became a reality.
I do not know if the Armenian Government and the Armenian Diplomacy has riped and matured to these international levels, or if we are going to be devoured by the famous Turkish diplomacy that has tricked us and the world for centuries.
Empires, Kingdoms and Governments come and go, but the Armenian Nation will survive, no matter who is in charge, be it honorable man or a traitor.
I hope that our President knows something that we do not know and it will be to the benefit of All Armenian, in Armenia and the Disapora.
Asbet Balanian
Community Activist
Philadelphia, PA USA
Mobile phone: 267-934-0899
ANZKAMIN YERESE TEKEREN
ESATS A PARK ASDOOTSO ANTSREV
AYS YERKO TAVAJANEROON CHI BEDK A
KEREZAN
Armenians have been fighting for almost a century trying to get the world and turkey to recognize a horrible crime that was committed against them in 1915. With protests and facts we have succeeded getting the genocide recognized in many countries, but we still have a long way to go. These protocols will diminish all the hard work that our people have put into the cause and leave more open wounds on our culture. Open your eyes Mr. President and understand that turkey is trying to once again crush the Armenian culture and spirit through these protocols. When you took an oath to become the leader of our nation, you swore to do everything necessary to help our nation, not your bank account.
DO NOT SIGN THE RPOTOCOL YOU BLIND MAN…….YOU TRAITOR
SARKISSIAN HAS A FERM APPOINTMENT WITH
SOGOMON TEHLIRIAN
ARSHAVIR SHIRAKIAN
MISAK TORLAKAIN.
HE WILL MEET TALAT AND HIS FELLOWS IN CLOUD 9.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE ARMENIA
LONG LIVE THE ARMENIAN YOUTH
are you stupid serj sarkissian… Do you let those muslim turks win this fight..
I swear it´s no good for you if you sign the protocols,
Barkev Asadourian says:
October 7, 2009 at 1:43 pmAre they [ Turks ] trying to genocide one more to Armenians
because they would to distroy whole Armenians in the world
and to keep one Armenian alive in Musuem
Gul and Erdoghan go back to your history….
what a shame you are bringing on to the Armenian people. we have struggled for a hundred years for your ignorant self to destroy our dignity once and for all. you, illiterate president, are taking our nation to a civil war. shame to you! shame!
It seems to me that we are far smarter than our own government. They are engulfed by a ubiquitous cloud of ignorance that fails them to see the simple issue that trade can be opened without pre-conditions. In addition, Armenia’s economy will suffer more from the trade with turkey due to the trade gap between the two. Turkey exports 177 million dollars of exports to Armenia and Armenia exports only 2 million dollars to Turkey. They are more efficient, trade won’t help us, America fuels this due to oil, Russia supports America for once. We either must unite in arms because our cries aren’t being heard or we must attack with politics (which we failed because we lost our leverage). So it seems to me that our only option is to attack with arms. The destruction of the pipeline will destroy the protocol. The advancement into Azerbaijan will erase the protocol, however, once breached war may be waged. I leave it to the public to decide but I will try and politically gain leverage again… IT DOES NOT MEAN RECOGNITION CANNOT STILL BE GAINED!!! WE MUST FIGHT FOR WHAT IS OURS!!! WELL DONE TO THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT BUT KEEP FIGHTING!! WE WILL COME BACK EVER STRONGER!!! FIRST WE MUST KILL WHAT IS CORRUPT = PRES SERZH SARGSYAN!!!!
Sargsyan By thinking to sign this protocol you become our nation’s traitor, we demand you resignation.
haj azgi tshnami, mi morati vor qezanov chi vor ajd hart@ petq e lutvi. ajsqan arjun vor tapvel e triqneri derqov dq voch miajn merq e haj azgi dem, ajl da merq e arachin@ Astzo dem, u ete du´ tachum es ajd arjun@ var@ ktarvi ko arjun@…………
Mr. Sargisoglu,
You are a traitor-davachan. ALL traitors in the Armenian history ended up in the same way.
But I think you do not know Armenian history too.
Azgi takank. Verjd lav chi lini.
Սերջ Սարկիսիան!! ԱՄՈՏ ԿԵԶ. ՉԵՍ ՀԱՍԿԱՆՈՒՄ? Տուրկերուհ ուզումեն ջնջեն մեզի!! Միհատ չեն ներողուցուն ասե. Պլոր չունետսան վոր ասեն “Այո, գենոսիդը եղելա” Սաղ մեր տարապանկը կցեցիր ախպի մեչ! Ամոտ կեզ սերջ սարկիսիան. Դո դավաջան ես! Կեզ համար հարգան չունեմ.
Barkev Asadourian says:
HAY ZHOGHOVOURTIN ARZHANABADIVE VODNAKOKH YEGHAV
VAYRENIE TAVAJANER TURKIN AROUYNE GROGH . VERCHABES
NEBADAGIT HASSAR PROTOCOLNERE SDORAGRELOV FOOTBALLI
KHAGHIN AAL MASNAGIS ELAAS BIDI . HAY ZHOGHOVOURTIN BADVIN
HASHVIN 1.5 MILLION NAHADAGNEROUN HOKINEROO ARAVEL
HRAND DINKIN VOGHPERE POLORIT GIANKE KHELE.
TSAYRAKOON TAVAJANER BAYKARNIS HARADEV E TEBIE HAGHTANAK
LONG LIVE ARMENIA WITHOUT YOU
LONG LIVE ARMENIANS ALL OVER THE WORLD WITHOUT YOU
United we stand, divided we fall.
This was the worst thing any Armenian could have done to even consider something like this. Have you lost your mind (ho do ches gjve ara). No Love For The turks with open or closed borders. All you have to do is look at the footage from the soccer game in turky to see the turk bastards throwing rocks at the Armenian Press and Players. Shame on you Dear President for doing to us what the turks never could!